Rolex Kermit vs Starbucks: Comparing the Green Submariners

The Rolex Kermit vs Starbucks comparison is a green-Submariner showdown: the "Kermit" (16610LV) and "Starbucks" (126610LV) are both green-bezel, black-dial Submariners — but the Kermit is the discontinued 40mm version with a green aluminium bezel (2003–2010), while the Starbucks is the current 41mm model with a green Cerachrom ceramic bezel. The Kermit is the collectible aluminium original; the Starbucks is the modern, more durable successor. Both are distinct from the "Hulk," which has a green dial. Crown Watch Group can source either reference in the condition you want.

This guide compares the two green Submariners on bezel material, size, movement and price, and clears up the naming confusion. For the wider model, see our Rolex Submariner resources and our Rolex Submariner Hulk guide.

Kermit vs Starbucks vs Hulk: Clearing Up the Names

All three are green Submariners, which causes confusion. The Kermit (16610LV) has a green aluminium bezel and a black dial, produced from 2003 to 2010 for the Submariner's 50th anniversary. The Hulk (116610LV), made 2010–2020, has a green Cerachrom bezel and a green dial. The Starbucks (126610LV), the current model since 2020, returns to a green Cerachrom bezel with a black dial — effectively a modern, ceramic Kermit, which is why some call it the "Cermit." This article focuses on the two black-dial green Submariners: Kermit and Starbucks.

Rolex Kermit vs Starbucks: Key Differences

Bezel, Case and Movement

The most important difference is the bezel. The Kermit's green aluminium insert can fade or mark over time — which some collectors prize as character — while the Starbucks' Cerachrom ceramic bezel is virtually scratch-proof and fade-resistant. The Starbucks is also 1mm larger at 41mm, with the updated case and slimmer lugs of the modern Submariner, and it runs the newer caliber 3235 with roughly a 70-hour power reserve, versus the proven caliber 3135 in the Kermit. In short, the Kermit offers modern-vintage charm and the original aluminium look; the Starbucks offers current-model durability and a slightly more contemporary fit.

Pricing and Collectibility

Both command a premium over the standard black Submariner because of their green bezels. The Kermit is a discontinued, increasingly collectible reference, and clean, full-set examples — especially earlier "fat four" or later "maxi dial" variants that collectors seek — can trade strongly. The Starbucks is the current model and, like most in-demand steel Submariners, trades above retail on the secondary market. Exact levels depend on condition, completeness and demand, so verify current listings before buying. Both have held value well historically, but past performance does not guarantee future results.

Which Should You Choose?

Choose the Kermit if you want a modern-vintage collectible, the character of an aluminium bezel, the slightly smaller 40mm case, and the appeal of the original green Submariner. Choose the Starbucks if you want the current model, a scratch- and fade-resistant ceramic bezel, the latest caliber 3235 movement, and the reassurance of buying a watch Rolex still produces and services.

Both are excellent, and the decision often comes down to whether you prefer vintage character or modern durability — and to the condition of the specific example available. That is exactly where a sourcing partner helps: comparing authenticated Kermits and Starbucks side by side rather than choosing on paper.

How to Source a Green Submariner

Green Submariners are among the hardest Rolex references to buy at retail, so most buyers source them pre-owned, which makes authentication essential — especially for the collectible Kermit, where bezel and dial originality strongly affect value. Crown Watch Group sources both the 16610LV and 126610LV through a verified global network, authenticates each before payment, and delivers fully insured. Tell us which green Submariner you want, or browse the Rolex watches we currently have available.

Frequently Asked Questions

What is the difference between the Rolex Kermit and Starbucks?

Both are green-bezel, black-dial Submariners. The Kermit (16610LV, 2003–2010) is a 40mm model with a green aluminium bezel, while the Starbucks (126610LV, 2020–present) is a 41mm model with a green Cerachrom ceramic bezel and the newer caliber 3235. The Kermit is a discontinued collectible; the Starbucks is the current model.

Is the Kermit or Starbucks better?

Neither is objectively better. The Kermit offers modern-vintage character and an aluminium bezel in a 40mm case; the Starbucks offers a more durable ceramic bezel, a 41mm case and the latest movement. The choice comes down to vintage charm versus modern durability.

Is the Starbucks the same as the Hulk?

No. The Hulk (116610LV) has a green bezel and a green dial, while the Starbucks (126610LV) has a green bezel and a black dial. The Starbucks is effectively the modern ceramic successor to the black-dial Kermit, sometimes nicknamed the "Cermit."

Which is more collectible, the Kermit or the Starbucks?

The Kermit is the more collectible of the two as a discontinued anniversary reference, with clean full-set examples sought after. The Starbucks is highly desirable as the current model and trades above retail, but it is still in production.

Do green Submariners cost more than the black Submariner?

Yes. Both the Kermit and Starbucks command a premium over the standard black Submariner because of their green bezels and strong demand. Exact premiums depend on condition, completeness and market demand.

Can Crown Watch Group source a Kermit or Starbucks?

Yes. Crown Watch Group sources both the 16610LV Kermit and 126610LV Starbucks through its verified global network, authenticates each before payment, and delivers fully insured worldwide.

Source Your Green Submariner With Confidence

Kermit or Starbucks, aluminium or ceramic, 40mm or 41mm — both are outstanding green Submariners with strong followings. When you have decided, Crown Watch Group can source your reference in exactly the condition you want, authenticate it end to end, and deliver it fully insured, wherever you are located.